I’m going to post some quotes about reasons for circumcision. I want people to think if these are good reasons for cutting children’s genitals and what we could do instead. If you agree with these statements, then I’ll do what I can to change your mind in the future, but fair enough. If you don’t, come back for the next post to discuss the issues.
Unfortunately, our daughter fell into the statistical minority, developed UTIs, and was circumcised before 6 years old to prevent recurrence. I no longer had to fear for my daughter’s fragile teenage years (which will soon be upon us), and her mother understood that, for our daughter, the procedure was medically necessary. But if I were making the decision today for a young child, given the current medical advice, I hope I’d be more open to leaving things the way nature intended them.
Is this how we would typically treat a UTI in North America or Europe? I had a few of them myself growing up, it’s not abnormal. I didn’t get sliced up – even if it would have helped – instead I was given antibiotics. Yes antibiotics carry their own risks and can damage the gut through eradicating gut flora. Nevertheless with a bad infection it’s the best course of action. Surgery for anything is normally a last resort. Apparently, when it comes to children, it’s easier to slice up their bodies. They cannot really say no, make their own decisions.
Then I saw this about bullying:
Please have girls circumcised my wife still at 48 has emotional scars. The kids nicknamed her spinster, called her ugly – other girls age 8 tried to pull her pants down and with a pocket knife saying they were going to make her normal and pretty. (Their mothers wanted her to be marriageable).
Is this typical of dealing with bullying? Rather than dealing with bullies and cruelty, we plead the right to mangle children. Why have emotional scars when your privates can be one big jagged scar of vacant flesh.
Are these good reasons to circumcise? Should we allow female circumcision (any of the four types), based on the pleading of family? Avoiding emotional scars, infections, “health issues”, ability to marry… could we validly say these are serious considerations for mutilating young children?
It would be great to hear some opinions before posting the follow up, so I have more to work with 🙂
It isn’t just America anymore. First we had a parade. Then we had to have an entire festival and a week of “pride”. Then many of our crosswalks were made into rainbow stripes. It was so “beloved” they’re permanent fixtures. This wasn’t enough, however. Now our city has drag queens with inappropriate names, reading stories to and speaking with very young children. Stories with sexual titles (Mary had a Little Clam, for example) parading sexuality to children. Not one drag queen, but a whole line of them.
I know I’m an evil bigot for not wanting to sexualise children. This is hyper sexualization and everyone seems dandy with it. We have antibiotic resistant gonorrhea and in the gay community rampant hiv/aids, and last I heard, exploding hep. Perhaps some people think I’m over stating this, but consider: drag queens are performing sexual expression. Look at their dress and their makeup. It’s not dress up. The purpose is of a sexual nature, even if they repress it. The very entity of the drag queen is sexual. Then look at the whole idea of “pride” itself. Gay pride is people literally being proud, delighting in and taking meaning from, whom they have sex with. No healthy person should ever be forming their identity, marching, celebrating or including children in who they are having sex with.
Gay pride and the whole idea of identifying as gay is identifying as someone who has a certain type of sex with certain people and lives in a certain way pursuant to the physical homosexual act. No healthy normal person identifies and bases their personhood on who their jibbly bits go inside of. Most people do not identify as who they have sex with. It is a part of their lives and if anyone really wanted this to be about “love” (which marriage is not, sorry kids), most people wouldn’t be able to tell who was in a gay relationship, who was straight, who was single, etc. If everyone simply lived their lives and didn’t form identities by who they have sex with and then have to tell absolutely everyone else and rub it in their faces there wouldn’t be so much of an issue.
Instead, our families and cities are being forced to embrace and watch live action porn every year. If anyone tried to show public films of the things we make children witness during “pride”, there’d likely be criminal charges. Why are we forcing our children into more and more sexual situations and forcing them to think it’s normal? Why are we so obsessed with sexually perverting our children. THIS IS CHILD ABUSE.
Whatever happened to the idea that “what two consenting adults do in their bedroom is none of your business”? When you take it out of the bedroom, it’s now my business. When you start involving children, it’s my business. When people who don’t want to be involved are forced into acceptance by threat of legal action by the government, it’s my business. How is this about consenting adults anymore, when you’ve got CHILDREN involved?
We are now reducing people to how much they cost. If old people can save the government money, then doesn’t it make sense? They should save us money and if that means dying to do so, so be it. What about sick people? They cost the medical system money. Why don’t we just leave them to die to save money? Cancer patients? Why treat them, they’ll probably die anyway, and think of the savings!
Parliament votes themselves raises for doing nothing but ruining the country, empoverishing the people, and sitting around preening. Better kill granny to save some cash, those raises have to be funded by something.
Think about it for a bit. Killing old people, sick people, also called euthanasia, is being promoted as a way to save money. Can someone remind me what the love of money is?
Oh yes, the root of all evil.
I had wanted to finish this miniseries of inanity, but at the time didn’t think the damage to my sanity was worth it. However I believe it is about time this is done with. It is the last six points of eighteen, found here. She claims female privilege is insane, I argue its commonplace and what our very civilization is founded on; further that the things she complains about aren’t female oppression, or are actually caused by feminism itself.
13. Female disadvantage is being payed a lower salary in the same position a man holds. Female disadvantage is being judged if you’re a stay at home mom because you’re not living up to the rights won by feminists past but being judged if you do not stay at home to raise your children.
This is the wage gap myth. Women work less overtime, take more holidays, take more sick days, leave work earlier/start later, take maternity leave and generally don’t ask for raises as frequently as men. Women earn the same as men hour-to-hour in the same position; statistically women earn slightly higher than men in the hour-to-hour, same position job, on average. Its a fractional percentage but it exists. Forbes goes into the wage gap myth. Women also do jobs with less danger (and thus lacking danger pay) and with more emotional or self satisfaction, such as caring for others or doing something they love but for less money. Even with “liberation” women still mostly become secretaries and nurses. I don’t know of many female underwater welders, crab fishers or oil rig workers. Where are the summer roofing women clamoring for fair representation hauling shingles and mucking about in tar? Where are the women demanding they wake before dawn to sling garbage off the streets as equitable distribution of careers? Why don’t they want to close the death gap? 93% of US workplace deaths are male, and this excludes military deaths. Why aren’t women demanding they be given riskier, more dangerous jobs that puts more female lives on the line, if they so desperately want to be closing gaps?
Generally women will gravitate towards things they like even if it pays less, while men have historically been forced into any paying job they can get. Men will more often hate their jobs or careers but do it for the money it brings. They usually do this so their children can be raised in the home by a parent (mother), rather than in a institution by a stranger (daycare, school). Women will also take lower wages if it means they can work from the home, or do small home business from the home, to be with children. This contributes to the average of lower pay; also in Canada small businesses earning less than $10,000 a year are untaxed. For a mother that’s helpful and it doesn’t push a family into a higher tax bracket.
The second part is this girl shooting herself in the foot. That “disadvantage” comes from feminists and feminism. Stay at home moms, like myself and most of the women I know, don’t attack each other for raising our children. Nor do we go after the women we know who work, and they don’t attack us. The only people causing disadvantages here are feminists who expect every woman to pick up and follow them in lock step. If one does not, then they are to be ridiculed, ostracized and beaten down. They take it as an insult that other women don’t appreciate their efforts to “free” them.
Some women simply don’t like working to pay for a second car and daycare, so they can go to work. Others care more for being the ones to actually raise their own kids, or put education on priority and prefer homeschooling to the decaying school system. The condemnation about stay at home moms, or even motherhood in general, comes from feminists. Most stay at home moms I know prefer women to be home with the kids, and consider it the better choice, but all also understand that sometimes circumstances necessitate otherwise. That’s not judgement.
I don’t think its fair, or intellectually honest, to use problems among feminists, caused by feminism, to argue female disadvantage.
14. Female disadvantage not having her opinion taken seriously when there is a real issue.
Does this actually happen or is it just rhetorical fantasy? I would also like to know, is your opinion valid for the real issue? There may be a real issue, but your opinion may also be validly ignored. Opining that your cookies are excellent has nothing to do with the real issue of the five cent increase in gas prices because of the carbon tax. There is no reason to take your opinion seriously in this moment. Or, there may be an election of Canada’s new Prime Minister but your views on the pertness of a candidate’s arse or how cute he is, while your opinion, cannot be taken seriously for electoral platforms.
If you have a valid opinion, in your patriarchal fantasy world, you’d get a pat on the head and told what a pretty, smart girl you are to have thought of that all on your own. So even in the darkest corners of your male dominated nightmares, you’d still get credit. After all, those nasty men let you speak in their presence, didn’t they? As someone who lives in a male dominated social structure, and worked in a male dominated industry, I have never been condescended to or had my opinion not taken seriously. I actually have men ask my opinions willingly, or consider them thoughtfully; men appreciate intelligence and wit. I would ask the feminist, are you sure your opinion is valid for the situation, or are you just so used to participation trophies you cannot comprehend being dismissed on the grounds of failure? You may actually be dense, illogical, invalid, plain wrong or flighty; not oppressed or disadvantaged.
15. Female disadvantage is being successful and being told it’s only because you’re a woman, not because you’re hardworking.
Sometimes women do make it because they are hardworking. There could be valid reasons for general suspicion that aren’t being considered. Let’s weigh in against the claim. Being a woman greases the wheels. It’s also harder to not let a woman be successful because she can take you to court for discrimination. Women often don’t do as well, yet are promoted, because of lowered expectations. This is actually real, and as hardworking as you may be, and may have earned everything to a certain level, at some point you are raised above men for being a woman. I have to agree with the premise of this one, because the government establishes sex quotas. Women have to be hired in certain percentages, have to be promoted in certain percentages, etc., for “equality”. This insures women are hired or promoted at standards considered unsatisfactory for men.
What I disagree with is that its a disadvantage. This is actually female advantage, in that women are handed things they don’t earn. If a woman cannot make the standard, that should be the end of it. The fact that women are forced into roles and jobs, objectively they did not earn, makes the complaint of “because you’re a woman” credible. This is not every situation, of course, and it may happen to some women and if so I hope they prove their grit and mettle. Generally speaking if you can do the job, that’s all anyone cares about.
Ambition is usually a male trait. There are ambitious women, but nearly every male is ambitious in some way, while it is less obvious in females. (For this we will ignore hypergamy and the social climbing of women; these are different sorts of ambitions.) Typical ambition drives men to be actively successful, or to scrape their ways to success. Women do start up many small businesses, usually from the home, but they are generally little part time jobs they like to do. Men will start something and drive it to become a large business; women are less inclined and less interested in doing such. Men are also more likely to fail and lose more than women, as they risk more and invest more; feminists like to disregard this point.
16. Female disadvantage is having your body dissected by the media and society, and having immense pressure to live up to an arbitrary and unattainable ideal image of beauty.
I both agree and disagree with this one. The writer and I agree for different reasons I suspect. I’m disgusted with the grotesque display of bodies everywhere. There’s no sense of modesty in our world. Girls dress like hookers, and young women wear skin tight clothes with all their bits jiggling. On a limb, my guess is the feminists see nothing wrong with this, but complain that people look and judge. They create their own monster.
Feminists on one hand whinge about objectifying women and living up to unrealistic standards, then turn around and talk about empowerment, slut walks and “their bodies”. As women have become more “sexually empowered” the more clothes have come off, the more weight has come off and the more demanding the gluttonous media is. Women wanted to keep shortening their skirts, pulling off their sleeves and tantalizing men, because they were “free” and “liberated”.
I agree that being part of a meat market is wrong and disrespectful, but sweetheart, it starts at home first. This disadvantage only goes as far as the individual woman allows it. Women who dress nicely but modestly are not only treated with more respect simply in passing, but are not treated as objects. Being pretty and unpretentious avoids the whole situation. Women make money off their bodies; models, strippers, porn stars, reporters and tv anchors, actresses, waitresses and bar tenders to name a few. The very system feminists complain about let them make money with little labour. What is an advantage to many is a disadvantage to others.
In this case, empowerment belongs in the hands of each woman: isn’t this actual empowerment? Women can choose to unplug from the mass media and not enslave themselves to all these trends. They can choose to reject slut walks or looking like they’re standing on a corner. I agree that the media has a crazed view of beauty they are pushing but one doesn’t have to obey. Most women don’t look like that and everyone knows photoshop and air brushing is used. Few people truly believe women need to appear like supermodels at all times. Surprisingly (not so surprisingly) most men I know dislike makeup and fake parts.
I’ll add that this unattainable perfection affects men, too, but admit it is not to the same level. Fitness magazines push the perfect six or eight pack, chiseled features, hairless bodies, and rippling muscles. Most men also do not look like this. Unlike women, men also do not get private gyms. There are unisex gyms and women only gyms. There are plenty of overweight, obese, untoned, and completely normal average guys in the gym. Many more are too ashamed to even enter, as women intermingle and it is as hard for a fat guy as a fat gal to exercise in front of others. Another trait men are judged on is their height, and there is massive hate for short men out on the internet. Plenty of women, feminists too, rail against short men and mock any male shorter than they for daring to ask them out. (Yes, my husband is shorter than I.) And guys, you’d better have good credit, a good job, your own place, a car, etc., etc. Because women’s eyes turn to looks that aren’t on a man’s body, but in what he possesses. She can judge you for appearances she prefers but no man had ever notice anything physically attractive.
17. Female disadvantage is having to hide the fact that you’re a feminist because it’s seen as a dirty word. Female disadvantage is being told you’re just a harpy nit-picking feminist who is being over-sensitive.
Feminist is a dirty word, because feminists are shrews and harridans. Wanting all the advantages and rights with none of the obligations and responsibilities is simply wrong. Women aren’t forced into compulsory military service, women don’t usually end up paying child support, women don’t have to work dangerous jobs, etc. I would also like to know why it is a female disadvantage to deny feminism. That seems more like a choice, rather than a sex-spanning conundrum. Most women don’t like feminism. Personally, I’m against every wave of feminism. I accept this is an outlier position. Almost every modern anti-feminist thinks the first wave, and even the second, were good. It is this last “third wave feminism” that has so many people – yes people, all sorts of people – pissed off.
Why is hiding feminism female disadvantage? Universities thrive on it. Even the only men’s gender course is run by the women studies people. Women can complain about anything they want, in public, and completely lie (glass ceiling, wage gap), and they are taken seriously. When boys are killed in the world, no one cares, but if girls are kidnapped, it’s a global outrage.
Having to hide feminism and feeling judged is a personal issue; one cannot take legitimate criticism of feminism and dreams it is abundant (victim mentality and martyr syndrome are endemic in today’s society). Everyone proudly proclaims themselves as feminist, or pro girl, or girl power, or whatever else pro-woman they can think up. How this is female disadvantage is beyond me. The only thing I can think of is that when people now bring up feminism, they may be openly critiqued or asked questions. It is no longer taken strictly as gospel all the time. This social heresy makes hard line feminists, I’m extrapolating here, feel very disadvantaged.
It is not disadvantage to be told you’re a harpy and nit picking and being over sensitive, because you are. If you stopped being a whining nag emoting over everything, people would stop saying it to you. It is not female disadvantage to be told off; everyone is told off. Everyone gets annoyed, and everyone pushes too hard and too far at some point. Being told to shut up and sit down isn’t female disadvantage, its an individual issue. I’m not disadvantaged because your feelings were hurt, or because people disagree with you. Nor is any other woman.
18. Female disadvantage is being tossed aside as irrational and arrogant. Female disadvantage is being told “You have it good enough, why keep fighting?”
This one makes me feel like she was really scraping the bottom of her skull for anything after that flop in point seventeen. If you are being irrational and arrogant, than you are going to be told so and, yes, tossed aside. If you are not being irrational and arrogant, than other than all your feelings, where is your proof? If arguing for feminism has people calling you irrational and arrogant, than frankly I agree with them. It has nothing to do with you being a woman, everything to do with you presenting rhetoric, lies and slogans. Neither men or women had great pasts; for most of history men and women worked together, performing different functions, so we could all survive. Women were given the good graces to not have to work outside the home, as breastfeeding, raising toddlers, taking care of a home and garden or farm and making all the food and clothes from scratch was already a full day and night of labour. Why feminists are obsessed with adding a forty hour work week to all the work women already do by their very natures is mind boggling. Unless they really hate women.
Women don’t have it good, in the sense that women able to be women, wives and mothers thrive; they aren’t. Women as materialistic entities “winning” at society, do continue “the fight” and do have it good. They marry men, instigate the majority of divorces, then take everything. They can get jobs they aren’t qualified for, based on legally enforced government quotas. They get the same hourly pay as men, even though they statistically don’t do as much actual work. Everything in schools circles around them. Harming boys and mocking men is celebrated.
Wives and mothers, on the other hand, get shafted. Their husbands struggle to find work in a failing economy flooded with competition from men and women. The government taxes families into poverty, making a family life difficult. (People are staying unmarried or divorcing because they lose less money as separate entities than as a family). The government funds single mothers in daycare, camp, college, after school activities; when she marries, all these are cut off. Families have to pay school taxes even if they home school.
There is an interview from a Patricia Hajdu, Canada’s “Status of Women Minister” (I didn’t know that was a thing either, but I am so pleased the food from my child’s mouth is taken from me in the form of taxes to pay for such needed roles in government). It took a bit of searching, but there are a few sources. It could all be the exact same article spread over Canadian news sites.
The government wants to hear diverse, and opposing views and opinions.
But Hajdu’s enthusiasm for funding opposing voices only goes so far
That’s right. The government will only accept opposing views that agree with their opinions. Let this sink in. The only opposition our government will listen to is the opposition that agrees with how they feel, what they think and their personal paradigms. We have the right to their opinion, and we can dissent, so long as we get permission and only disagree with things they disagree with.
“The work still has to happen within values and evidence and the Charter of Rights and Freedoms, so what we want at Status of Women is to empower women and to ensure the protection of women’s right to choose,” she said.
“So, it would have to still fall within the realm of feminism.”
I have my grandfathers old criminal code books and the Canadian Charter from when I took law; he was a retired police officer and had them on his shelf. My brother has the Charter as a poster and new criminal law books, from when he did police schooling. In all this, I have never seen “abortion” or “feminism” anywhere in the Charter. There is no clause that states “protection for a woman’s right to choose”. Nor is “empower women” there.
R v. Morgentaler decriminalized abortion in the legal system twenty years after the Charter was written. The Supreme Court also unanimously found the state has an invested interest in protecting the fetus/unborn child. There were two items not decided on in their ruling: whether women have a Charter right to abortion, and whether fetuses/unborn children are included in “everyone” in section 7 and entitled to the same rights. Abortion is a legalistic limbo in Canadian law, not something that is actually protected; it is not even mentioned or defended. Law directly contradicts Hajdu.
Shouldn’t someone who lives a cushy nice life on my tax dollar, who claims to be speaking for all women, in an official capacity in the government, know the simple basics of Canadian Law? No, your claims are not enshrined in the Charter. Fact: the Supreme Court of Canada disagrees with you, Patricia! The Supreme Court specifically said no to a Charter defence of abortion, contrary to your claim. Also, the law does not actually cater to feminism. Then I have to ask, what about all the women the “Status of Women Minister” disagrees with? Are they protected as women and allowed to have their own opinions? Or do they only have representation if they fall in line, do what they are told, obey, and disagree on things with which they’re allowed to disagree? We need diverse opinions, so long as the government consents to the opinions. Is the Status of Women Minister working for all Canadian women, or just the ones she likes?
A lot of Canadian women are against abortion. The number of pro baby young girls is growing. None of these voices are accepted by the Canadian government. A woman’s voice is of worth if she toes the line and does what the government says and follows the government policies already laid out. Canadian government feminism defends women saying things they like; they will not represent, aid, protect, or even listen to any women who have their own opinions. What about women who work hard jobs and don’t want to be made to work while raising a family? The glamour jobs of career women exists for almost no actual women. Yet every woman is being ideologically shoehorned into the model of high paying, upper level glass ceiling jobs, which are reality for nearly no one. Every woman is treated as though she is privileged for being able to work and raise a family at the same time. What if a woman want to raise her kids, but can’t – or simply does not want to – do a hard labour or factory job? Because the government bases its policies on feminism, and women fitting in their pre-established archetypes and delusions of utopia, these women will not be heard.
Is this pro feminist picture for or against women? If one does not fit into a certain protected group, feminists feel free to personally attack other women. My dresses are mostly recycled saris, nearly everything I have is second hand, my head is not empty but my wall sized bookshelf is full, sometimes three books deep, and we are a working class couple with our first baby coming soon. There is, however, no reason to be frumpy and one can be clean and pleasant, even attractive, while poor. Is the first woman, even if she worked really hard and lives in a tiny apartment, so she could save and afford that Chanel and Prada, to be excluded by the Canadian government for not fitting their stereotypes? Is the second woman actually doing something of value, is she even a good writer, or does she lack the skill and is resentful and bitter, blaming men for her own failings? Will she get government grants and job placements because she fits what the government deems a good feminist woman, worthy of their time and Canadian taxes? Well behaved men rarely make history. There have been how many billions of people on the earth? How many serfs do we know, merchants and traders, knights and militia, monks and priests? We know of very few people who have lived. How delinquent and selfish do women have to be, that a lack of infamy is a mark of oppression? Why does anyone need to make history? These feminists should go to a graveyard and see all the names of forgotten people, male and female, who also never made history. Their own families don’t even know they are there. The entire idea is a non sequitur.
The other issue is that there are plenty of women who have made history. Also, without women, many of the men in history would never have made it. Not everyone has a starring role. Every play has support actors, without whom there is no play. Is the role of a wife and mother, sisters and cousins, aunts and in-law, who directly contribute to a man’s success, to be so tossed aside by feminism? If they aren’t the star of the show, their role doesn’t matter? That is true oppression. Expecting every woman to be reckless and overbearing and a star. Most people never achieve this.
What about the women who are famous? There are women who did make history. We have Hatshepsut, a queen who stole her step son’s throne and became a pharaoh. Nefertiti, a legendary beauty and integral to the Amun cult of Akhenaten. Nefertari was Ramesses II’s favourite wife and well known enough that we still know her name. Ankhsenamun was the wife of King Tut, his half sister, and mother to two very human looking embalmed unborn (miscarried) children. These are just women off the top of my head from 5000 years ago.
In the bible we have Sarah and Hagar (there’s the feminists precious infamy), Judith who beheaded a king, Naomi who kept her gentile daughter-in-law in her family and faith, even after her own son’s death. Without the goyim Ruth, there would be no kings David and Solomon, and thus no Christ. What about Magdelene, sisters Mary and Martha, Elizabeth the mother of John the Baptist; or that the first to see the risen Christ were women and not men. For the atheists: taken as just a story, contemplate the importance of the first people to see God alive after execution, and that they were women. Have these women not also been enshrined in history?
We have an abundance of famous, great Saints who are women. St Clothilde, wife of Clovis, who in converting him changed the course of history for Europe. St Joan d’Arc, ending the Hundred Years’ War. St Teresa of Avila, one of the greatest spiritual writers, and St Hildegard Von Bingen, regarded as a genius. St Helen, mother of Constantine, who found Calvary. St Bernadette, a simple peasant girl from France, loved to this day. St Catharine of Sienna, who told off a Pope, righteously. There are dozens more.
Mary Queen of Scots, Mary Tudor, Queens Elizabeth I and II. Queen Isabel of Spain, who drove out the moorish invasion of hundreds of years. Catherine the Great. Hanna Reitsch who was a female Luftwaffe pilot. Are these not women of history? Then of course, the most beloved, venerated, adored human to have ever existed, Holy Mary, mother of God. In what way have any of these women not made history? They were all either well behaved or fulfilling their duties, which is in fact being well behaved. Even if we have salacious and mostly fictional or out of context stories today, the same happened to famous men. Most were good and duty driven, we only think differently because of legend and fabrications.
Apparently a desperate glutton for punishment, on we go….
7. Female disadvantage is being blamed for a mistake made by two people.
Merriam-Webster defines mistake thus:
Simple Definition of mistake
: to understand (something or someone) incorrectly
: to make a wrong judgment about (something)
: to identify (someone or something) incorrectly
I assume by “mistake” we are in fact speaking of “unique human life complete with unique DNA (which is the same from conception until well beyond death) created by a male and a female, engaging in copulation.” This is grossly confusing as it is usually the left and feminists who howl for comprehensive “sex education”. In what way is conceiving a child a mistake? Did these feminists skip those sex Ed classes they are making mandatory on everyone else’s children? How can someone, who has likely been educated both formally and personally in fornication, be oblivious to the fact that sex makes babies?
Performing an act, knowing full well what the outcome a) can likely be and b) is purposed towards, is the exact opposite of a mistake. The other question is, do women truly get all the blame? Men can have their lives completely ruined by the women who lure them into fornication. Women are absolutely not innocent victims; what “liberated” woman isn’t aware of the [im]moral state of our society? She is either counting on that when she goes out, or is aware of “what pigs men are” (because apparently being willing to get naked and sleep around with men is the man’s fault).
Besides being able to take men to court and have their wages turned over, besides having the threat of jail time for non payment to women, besides having wages garnished by the government in payment for babies they often didn’t know existed, besides having the men folk in a family hunt them down for a usually violent confrontation, besides a shotgun wedding, the feminists are completely right and men get no blame.
Women however, get the blame, as I’m sorry ladies, but we do carry and nurture our babies. A baby without a daddy, a family without a husband, is one statistically headed for teenage pregnancy, higher crime rates, lack of education, gang activity and a descent into poverty. If you were honest in your anger against being blamed, you would actually care about these things and prevent these things from happening. The anger, however, is purely self centred. It is completely about not wanting to take responsibility for what you have done.
The other issue is responsibility: “my body my choice” is rhetoric feminists do not realize cuts both ways. Women have taken the entirety of procreation onto themselves. Apparently the children they conceive are their bodies. And men have no right to tell women what to do with their bodies. Men have been almost entirely shut out of procreation – except when a cheque is needed. He has no say on whether his child lives or dies at the hands of his or her mother. As women have taken the rights of children and made it about their bodies, and made it about whether they get to kill or not, and made it entirely their own decision: yes you get the blame. You get all the “choices”. You get all the blame for them, too.
8. Female disadvantage is being told she’s less than a man. Female disadvantage is being seen as weaker than a man intellectually and that she’ll never be half as capable as a man.
Weren’t you the one complaining that chivalry was dead? Why should men do anything for women if women are just different looking men who are completely identical in every other way? To be fair, I don’t know of any situation in civilized society where women are told they are less than men. In today’s society, it’s the opposite and male bashing is celebrated, but women are protected by laws. As for intellect, aren’t women bragging about how they multitask better than men and are intuitive and have “women’s intuition”? Why is it okay for these things to be true, if they are, and for women to celebrate it? Aren’t you oppressing men and pointing out their disadvantages compared to women?
Men on average are 5 IQ points higher than equivalent women. Men have more geniuses. Men also have far more autistics and retards. Women tend more towards averages. We have fewer high achievers but we also have far fewer failures. Men and women have brains that function differently and for different reasons. Why this is so wrong, I will never figure out.
Half as capable in what way? This is rhetoric and not an actual point. Half as physically capable? Weren’t you the one crying about being afraid of rape? In one point you complain about being weaker (or else rape wouldn’t be such a threat) because you’re a woman and the danger it puts you in; and in another you complain that people think men and women aren’t identical?
Half as mentally capable? If we go by the past 100 years, then it’s true, sweetheart. Women fought for the right to vote and instead of a beautiful utopia, we got: mini skirts, slut walks, women bleating for the right to go topless in public, abortion on demand up until being in active labour, astronomical taxation mostly for woman-based services (in Ontario about 75% of our money ends up funnelled into taxes), rampant pornography, garbage art and architecture, a nanny state in which thoughts and men are criminals, the criminalizing of established differences between men and women, etc. How many women willingly take courses outside of women’s studies, humanities, or child care? Very few. This is not to say all women behave this way or that some were not great achievers; but that I have to disclaimer this shows how next to no women make the list.
Evil men gave us nearly everything we have. From art and architecture on the grandest scales, to music and beautiful fashions, language and literature. The washing machine, vacuum and the dishwasher were invented by evil men so their wives could have even more free time, while their husbands continued to work like dogs with no change to their lives.
In sports, professional women’s leagues often lose to high school and college boys. Just saying.
9. Female disadvantage is BEING THE ONE WHO IS RAPED. Statistically, women are raped more so than men are (though this is not to discredit the men who are also victims.) Female disadvantage is being told rape is your fault because of how you dressed or acted.
I’m sorry, but in a binary system, there are only two options. Either you are complaining that not enough men are being raped, or women aren’t striving hard enough to be rapists, or … I have no idea what, to be honest. As I stated, humans are binary: if men were the ones mostly raped, they would likely be the weaker of the two. That would in fact make them women. We cannot escape the binary. Shockingly, however, most men are not rapists. Yes women are more likely than men to be raped: knowing this, instead of crying, be defensive.
Women are also more likely to be defended by men and beat up more by other women. Men are more likely to die of violence than women are, to die from crime, from war and far more likely to die on the job than women. It seems a bit insane that women wail about being so disadvantaged at an astronomical chance of possibly being raped, when many men very realistically may not come home. I don’t hear them complain.
We lock our bikes up, we lock our cars, and we lock our homes. Not because it is our fault that something bad happens, but because we are taking precautions to stop bad people from doing bad things to us. The reality is, bad people will take advantage of easy targets: whether it’s an unlocked car or a half naked woman. Just because someone shouldn’t do something, absolutely does not mean they won’t. Expecting honour is expecting virtue and morals. Something women have brutally beaten and castigated out of society. If one is actually afraid of being molested and raped out in public, or dragged off, then why would they put themselves in situations that would allow for this? It’s the same as a mugging, or having your car jacked. None of these feminists would ever purposefully allow for those to happen. Yet when it comes to their own bodies, they don’t even care and make their bodies (their choice) suddenly everyone else’s responsibility.
10. Female disadvantage is society telling her it’s her duty to get married and have children while men are encouraged to “play the field” because being a bachelor is glorified and embraced.
Who are you marrying, out of curiosity? I think these feminists are mixing up “old fashioned” views with the modern era, to create controversy and make themselves professional victims. Women are, today, encouraged to wait as long as possible to marry (if they ever do) and to hold off kids. The priority is college, career, fight to the top, cheer that you’re a man when you hit the top, then cry that you’re forty and all the good men have already married and you can’t have kids anymore anyway because you wasted your fertile years being a slave to a corporation.
Once again, I’m sorry to break in with reality but a woman is best served marrying young and having children young. It is how our bodies work. Being young mothers has advantages: more energy to keep up with the kids and life, with the energy to still study if one wishes. Children aren’t in the house all the time either, so early marriage and children mean by age thirty one can find time to actually pursue studies and a career if one still wishes. Why not have a career when older? Why does it have to be only during ones fertile stage?
Back to women marrying vs men “playing”. Again who are the women marrying, and then who are the men sleeping with if the women are waiting to be married? Women who do look for marriage are far less likely to be used, dumped and have a child out of wedlock. Pursuing relationships for the ends of marriage and family protects women from all those men “who don’t get the blame” (point 7). How can women complain about being saddled with blame and then complain about women avoiding that whole situation?
Being a bachelor is only glorified to a certain point. Like age twenty five. Men do start getting antsy, but as the women around them don’t want marriage, prefer careers, and are behaving like other men, what do you expect them to do? Men, more often than not, are looking for women who embrace marriage and children. Also, Ms feminist, do you actually want that bachelor lifestyle? Then don’t complain about chivalry being dead or being blamed for your own actions.
11. Female disadvantage is being abused by a husband and not having the physical strength to stop him unless she can work up the strength to contact the police. And still, in today’s society, there is a chance the police will not take her seriously because “she’s being an overdramatic woman trying to get revenge on her husband.”
I thought men and women were equal. Wasn’t “being seen as lesser and less capable” the disadvantage of point 8? Are you being seen as less capable, or as feminists point out here are you factually less capable? Yes abuse is awful, I’m not going to argue. Statistically men are abused twice as much as women are. Lesbians statistically have the highest abuse rates of all relationships. Gays are the next abusive. Wife on husband abuse is next and then dead last is husband on wife abuse. Not to downplay some horrid abuse cases, but honestly women, get your crap together. Some women live through absolute terror. These cases are rare.
In today’s society, it’s the exact opposite of the feminist claim. The police will even tell women to just say he hit her, so they can “legally” remove him. Women do make many false claims. Most are done for some sort of gain, certainly when it comes to divorce. Even when police arrive to find women wailing away on the husband, he is the one often taken away and charged. If a husband simply stops his wife from hitting him, “he grabbed her”, which is assault. When it comes to rape, a rape claim in Canada – this is just a woman saying she was raped, nothing else – is enough to put a man in jail until his court date. Men are automatically arrested and booked. There is no investigation before arrest, and they are lucky if there is ever one. I know personally of two cases of this, so I am absolutely not making it up.
12. Female disadvantage is being seen in a negative light if you do not portray stereotypical female traits such as empathy.
This is completely subjective and opinion based. Women are seen negatively for being emotional. Women are seen negatively for not being emotional. No matter what, feminists will find something to complain about and be oppressed by. I can’t think of any case where this is true. I have never seen or heard of someone accosted for not emoting enough. Aren’t women usually whining that they are accused to being too emotional? Feminists can’t even get their rhetoric straight!
There was a link in Facebook, which was apparently anti feminist. The article had been removed because it was “hateful and abusive” by the “community” on the site hosting said article. By this, it likely meant that it hurt someone’s feelings, some people disagreed, others personally didn’t like it; and importantly it probably hit upon too much truth or issues of contention.
1. Female disadvantage is walking down the street at night, having to worry about being attacked or raped. Female disadvantage is having to carry mace everywhere you go, even though the chances of it actually protecting you are slim.
Is this really a disadvantage? Does that mean a man’s capacity to rape is an advantage? In my experience, men are vehemently – often violently – opposed to rape. I know of a case (I was not involved, I only know of it second hand, which is hersay) where a cabbie ran over an attempted rapist so he couldn’t escape before the police arrived. He did the right thing, but that could still being serious trouble on him. Fathers and brothers go to the point of killing assailants. That female “disadvantage” affects everyone and communities, which is part of why it’s a serious crime. Serious crimes against humanity and the law are not “female disadvantages”. Sorry sweetheart, but it is a fact that evil men prey on vulnerable women. Not on night streets either; in daylight on trains and busses, online, luring through dating, and yes using women as bait to get rape victims. I suppose if the OP wasn’t so liberal, they would live where they can carry a gun. If they are truly worried about this as an active danger they would carry a weapon regardless.
2. Female disadvantage is being approached by men who think they have a right to your body. And when you turns said man down, you are called a bitch, or a prude, or stuck up, or whore — or even all of those and more. Female disadvantage is being told you should be thankful a man even looked your way.
I’m going to take a shot in the dark (brightly lit room with a flashing bullseye) and guess this approaching happens when one is “looking their best” and the one who approaches isn’t appealing. If the men were models or movie stars, these girls would happily let them have a right to their bodies. They only get angry when the men don’t live up to their expectations. Men are usually afraid of approaching women and the only time I’ve seen this happen or be spoken of as an issue, is when the guys “weren’t hot”. When you are putting yourself out there you should be happy men took notice, as that was the whole ego-inflating, self satisfying, point. The only “female disadvantage” here is the men didn’t live up to fantasy. The men who hit on you weren’t the specific ones you wanted, ergo men think they have a right to you”. (The insults usually come for luring men on, or actually being those things, or dealing with immature college boys. Honestly, if you were really big strong, able women who were at least equal to men, why are you so wounded? Why aren’t you just rolling your eyes and walking away?)
3. Female disadvantage is being taken advantage of when you’re drunk and being told it’s your own fault for drinking and putting yourself in that situation.
Did someone force you to get drunk? It actually is your own fault for getting that drunk. You aren’t claiming drugging, just that you were an idiot while drunk. For all you know, the guy is as disgusted by you are you are by him. Men own up to their stupid drunk “decisions”. Women cry that it’s a crime. Not very empowering. You made a choice, while wasted. Just because you regret it later, or wouldn’t have made that decision while sober, doesn’t mean you were taken advantage of. You still made your choice. Men get taken advantage of, too. You obviously know getting drunk and having random sex with guys is a problem, yet you whine that you have to take responsibility for your actions (like a big girl). You even know far ahead of time that it’s a possible problem, yet here is the OP crying about being forced to own up to her mistakes – before even making them. Maybe one should make different choices? You already know this choice gets you in trouble. Goodness you’re a dumb child.
4. Female disadvantage is turning on the TV and seeing beautiful women portrayed as air-headed, vain, stupid, and sexually promiscuous while women that are in position of power are seen as pushy, bossy, less desirable, and often less attractive.
Tell me about all those amazing husbands and fathers one sees on TV? Oh wait, they’re all fat idiots who need their wives to explain life to them and why they can’t always do stupid things without dying. They usually make lousy fathers too, and their kids run roughshod over them, or are partners in crime in immature escapades. The other option is the smart kids and smart wife have to teach “dad” together. Or a la Disney, the amazing children have to teach both parents but mostly idiot dad, about the facts of life and how everything the kid wants is right and how unreasonable and oppressive the parents are.
I do have to say most shaming of beautiful women, I see from feminists. (The most whoring, or desire to sleep around, is also from feminists: so why the complaint on that one?). The television is about the worst litmus test of actual living men and women. Also, feminism promoted the whole idea of that vapid, free loving silly girl who is just too cute and innocent and does whatever she pleases. Welcome to your own ideology biting you in the butt. The female boss thing isn’t usually true, in most shows and movies the boss or leader or great hero soldier is a woman. In some shows, yes, they stereotype a very real thing. I’ve had male and female bosses. Female bosses usually fall into the bossy angry sometimes unattractive (more so by nasty behaviour) category. Real life experience.
5. Female disadvantage is the fact that chivalry and morality are dying to the point where men argue about having to put those less able to protect themselves first.
Are you kidding? Seriously this is a disadvantage? Women killed chivalry, feminism destroys any man who tries – just look at what women say about men who open doors or pay for dinner. Or what they do to them. The problem with chivalry is that it requires ladies for men to be chivalrous towards. Chivalry takes into account the inherent inequalities of men and women. Chivalry relies on women being women, and men being men. Everything in this article is complaining about women being women, and sometimes women being forced to be basic humans with normal human considerations, so it’s no wonder chivalry is dead.
The moral part sort of sickens me. Morality is oppression according to feminism. In one point we have women screaming about being taken advantage of while they behave like men and demand equality, in the next we have women demanding morality which is again based on the inherent differences between men and women and our different roles in life. Morality also often requires the submission of ourselves and desires to a greater good. Morality often requires sacrifice, and while women refuse to participate, they expect men to, for the sake of women. While giving nothing back in return. Women desire morality from men yet desire immorality for themselves. Yes they want to sleep around and have men hitting on them (if they are attractive enough) but they don’t want the men to be using them for sex. This is the logic of feminism.
6. Female disadvantage is being told a woman shouldn’t be allowed to get an abortion, that she’s not a true member of the church if she’s taking birth control, and having old men who cannot and have never had to worry about getting pregnant fight over her reproductive rights. Female disadvantage is a man refusing to support his own child, leaving her to raise it on her own.
She shouldn’t be (allowed to kill babies). And she isn’t (part of the church if she disobeys God – birth control is a huge sin: Onan was struck dead for it in the Bible). Over half of females are pro life, and the vast majority (surprising number so) of young women, and even pre teen girls, are against abortion. It’s mostly men who are for abortion. They get all the sex they want, don’t even need to be responsible, and they can just rely on the women to kill his offspring. He gets all the wins, while she gets all the risks, including fistulas, infertility and death. The baby always loses. I will add that those “evil old men” are the ones taking responsibility for their actions and will be the ones expecting to have to raise the offspring they produced and pay for them, and you. Also, what about male reproductive rights? Are men not involved too? Do women simply asexually spawn children within their wombs? Why is it only women who have reproductive rights (euphemism as we aren’t talking about the right to reproduce, but to stop reproduction or to kill the products of reproducing)? Do men reproduce or not, and could it be they are trying to save their own reproductive rights? Perhaps they are trying to save their sons and daughters from horrific deaths at the hands of the children’s mothers?
Why do women always want it both ways? Here is my problem with this whole idea of child support. Is a man responsible or not? If a man is responsible for paying for his offspring, and helping the woman, than he has a say over his offspring. If it is a woman’s body, a man owns a woman nothing for her autonomy over her own body and her own choices. No man should have to pay women for their bodies and their choices. If aborting a child is a woman’s choice because it is her body, then having the baby is also her choice and her body. There is no male involvement here. Only when we admit that babies are also a man’s, that a baby is not a woman’s body, and that it is not a woman’s choice but a human being who is as much its father as its mother, can we talk about child support.
There’s 12 more points of selfish inanity to come!